Journal 26- Whitman
"Do I contradict myself? Very well then I contradict myself, I am large, I contain multitudes"
This quote is not just thought provoking but I think was the main theme of "Song of Myself". Throughout the poem Whitman "contradicts" himself painting pictures of diversity and difference. It is said that the "me' and "myselfs" of this poem were not just referring to Whitman, but to all Americans in our nation. And does our nation contradict itself? Of course! We contain multidues! We contain multitudes of people,places, and ideas, and thus I found Whitman's writing to be quite quentisensally American, based on the fact that he encompasses all of our diversity and all of our wonderful differences that make us a nation.
What first struck me as being quientessential American is Whitman's incorporation of the inanimate in relation to human interaction and unity, obviously it is seen most prevalent in his description/reference of grass "Or I guess it is a uniform hieroglyphic and it means, sprouting alike in road zones, narrow zones, growing among black as among white Kanuk, Tuckahoe, Congressman, Cuff, I give them the same, I recieve them the same". Grass here represents an emblem of unity in our nation. It grows everywhere, east coast, west coast and is blind to the differences in people. It was all very "this land is your land, this land is my land". I like to think Whitman was pointing out that through all of our diversity there is an enduring theme of brotherhood and pride in a nation comprised and built on the foundation of people being diverse,and even though you might be in a blue state and I might be in a red state, the same grass runs through. That type of unity and togetherness was a very American notion to me.
Furthermore, I saw a lot of American notions in his descrption of people and life in our country. Whitman alludes to the life of many different Americans all in a couple of stanzas "The farmer stops by the bars of a Sunday and looks at the oats and rye, the lunatic is carried at last to the asylum, a confirmed case..the jour printer with gray head and gaunt eyes wroks at his case". Here is where Whitman most strongly illustrates the diversity of America. From what I interpret, a small time farmer, someone who is mentally ill, and a disatisfied, overworked labourer. All of these examples paint portraits of America and further along the notion that we ( as a collective body of people in this nation) contain multitudes. I feel that is all the analyzing I can do on this point, maybe there is more to it but just on the surface it oozes quintessential American elements without even taking into consideration it's more deeper, philosophical meaning.
Last, I want to touch on the notion of trandentalism and its role in this poem. Compared to Emerson's transdaentalist writing, I see many simlilarites here. I took trandentalism as something very focused on gaining understanding/catharsis/meaning through your spirtual state and through focusing on the individual, as opposed to seeking those things through an institution or system.Whitman states that "I have said the soul is not more than the body, And I have said that the body is not more than the soul, and nothing, not God, is greater to one than one's self is". To me, that passage alluded to elements of transdentalism. There is a lot of focus on the indivudual, your soul, your body being most important to you, and not even God. I am not sure, but I would think transdentalists would be somewhat against organized religion, and maybe with this passage Whitman is trying to state that the individual should seek introspective understanding rather than understanding through the insitution of religion. That might be a long shot, but I think there is something said here about the relation of man and religion/dvinity.
-Chloe


I am glad!
I am glad you all agree. I always thought it was a good quote and then it turns up in the reading haha. It certainly makes me feel better about myself when I keep making contradictions. But more seriously, I really found it to be a symbol of the diversty and the different layers that not only make up an individual, but make up a nation. And as Josh said, that type of layering and diversity is essential and really forms the basis for a strong country.
-Chloe
It is a foundation but,
Perhaps all the layering could be a downfall aswell?
I agree we need diversity. And Conflict is good and keeps the earth spinning
but how far is too far when it comes to all our layers. When will our unique diversity fall over the edge and create disaster? How many people will keep pushing the lines?
I'm just playing the devils advocate.
And it's somethind to consider.
Interesting point.
Nice job expanding that quote to be in relation to current events/ future events. However, we are speaking more along the lines of diversity being something quientessentially American, and how it really formed the basis of our nation, all of the different immigrants,religions, and such. I really dont find "unique diversity" being as much as a hindrance when you compare all of the good that comes from it.I agree with what Bleck posted earlier, that through the conflict and the disagreements new ideas can emerge. I just think Whitman, and I as well, were just focusing on the diversity that simply exists and doesn't really instigate conflict or disagreement, but just represents all of the different types of people and ideas that America encompasses.
-Chloe
Contradictions
I like your first point. I agree, its typical of americans to contradict themselves. Even taking the biggest representatives of America or the president, we can see contradictions in their actions vs. words... So I think that point was right on. Not to say that everyone contradicts themselves though, but a great majority I think does...
Very True.
I think you bring up a good point about the contradictory nature of some people. The way you are speaking of it though it sounds like it has bad connotations. I really think Whitman was almost viewing being contradictiory as a compliment, as your mind can absorb,process, and understand different sides of an argument. That is the type of person that contains multitudes and if they contradict themselves than by golly it is because there are so many ideas running around in their heads!
-Chloe
Martin Luther I believe said,
Martin Luther I believe said, “If you are to sin, go and sin boldly!" Same deal in my mind. We are a nation of contradictions and extreme diversity. A nation of many nations and if we weren't it wouldn't be America. He talks about the different occupations and people and he knows they are treated different but they are all necessary to this country of ours.
-Josh R-§
I looked it up haha
"Be a sinner and sin strongly, but more strongly have faith and rejoice in Christ."
I was very intrigued by the quote and I see where you are coming from. I am starting to think that maybe both men wanted people to embrace faults, recognize them and try to work to make them positve. Such as in Whitmans case being contradictory means that you are absorbing different and conflicting ideas and King Jr. points out that you can be a sinnner but that should instigate more prayers, faith, and thanks towards Christ. That is my interpretation of how those two quotes kinda mesh together.
-Chloe
Ya that quote is the ne we
Ya that quote is the ne we hear all the time. But after thinking about it, it does certainly apply to our world today more than ever. Our countyr is supposed to be a mleting pot, but it is so hard for people to migrate here that we are losing that reputation.
THAT'S where that infamous
THAT'S where that infamous quote is from. Hah. Makes me laugh. And I agree that the part towards the beginning where he lists nearly every sort of occupation is a sort of slice-of-life of America.I enjoyed that part.
Me too!
I was trying to find deeper meaning in that section but I just had to point out how quintessentially American it was. I mean not only the rural, country more picturesque "American" lifestyle was represented but also the urban life and he even gives peaks into the life of labourers in the newly industrial sector of society and American life, which was a nice supplement to a lot of the other readings.
-Chloe